epartment of St e TELEGRAM PAGE 01 STATE 64)14 85 ORIGIN SS 25 INFO /025 R DRAFTED sYs NEA/PAFI APPROVED BYa NEAt WILLIAM NEA/PAFI MR1 SPAIN EUR/EEs MRo GARRISON S/Si MR• KELLY R 030139Z NOV 67 FM SECSTATE WASHDC TO AMEMBASSY BUCHA r EST 0055 EXDIS FOR AMBASSADOR FOLLOWING PORTIONS KARACHI 807 REPEATEQ FYio QUOTE ci AT 2200 HOURS MONDAY OCTOBER ·30 RECEIVED PHONE CALL .AT RESIDENCE FROM MANSUR AHMAD OF FMA STATING THAT IN A TELEGRAM FROM ANKARA PRESIDENT AYUB HAD INSTRUCTED THEM TO REQUEST ME TO MEET W!TH HIM IN KARACHI ON NOVEMBE~ lo I PROCEEDED To KARACHI LAST EVENING AND THIS MORNING MET WITH HIM1 FOREING MINISTER PIRZADA AND AHMAD FOR ONE HOUR• PAGE 2 RUEHC 64114 -s' E C ~ E T' AYUB APOLOGIZED FOR CALLING ME TO KARACHI BUT STATED HE HAD llECLASSlFIED NOT 0 E REPRODU .0. 12958, Sec. 1.5 ~...,..,.....~ITHOUT TH AUTHOR ATIO State Dept. , elin 0 HE EX CUTIVE SEC T By-Ji,.,._,NA A, D te_t," \.o Department of State TELEGRAM , PAGE ~2 STATE 64114 GATHERED INFORMATION IN ROMANIA WHicH ~E CONSIDERED COULD BE URGENTLY IMPORTANT TO USG. HE THEN STATED THAT CHAIRMAN MAURER HAD ADVISED HIM THAT APPROXIMATELY ONE MONTH AGO HF MAURER HAD VISITED WITH HO CHI MINH IN -HANOI AND THAT MINH AHD STATED THATt Al NORTH VIETNAM DOES NOT REPEAT NOT INSIST ON A UNIFIED VlETNAMs 8) NORTH VIETNAM DOES NOT REPEAT NOT INSLST ON ANY SETTLEMENT WHICH WOULD RESULT IN LOSS OF FACE TO USGs C) A BOMBING PAUSE WOULD LEAD TO NEGOTIATlONS BUT APPARENTLY NO REPEAT NO TIME ELEMENT INDICATEDs DI IT WAS RECOGNIZED THAT "THE WITHDRAWAL OF USG AND ALLIED FORCES WOULD HAVE TO BE ACCOMPANIED BY BOTH ViETNAMES~ WI~HDRAW~L AND ALSO BY THE CREATION OF AN INTERNATIONAL PRESENCE IN sOUTH VI ET NAM TO SUP ERV I SE A REFERENDUM AND fo KEEP "THE PEACE• P AGE 3 RuEHC 64114 sa-c t RE T E J UPON M~URER REQUEST OF MINH AS TO ~HY ·HE DID NOT SIGNAL THIS TO USG, MINH REPLIED THAT TO DO ·so WOULD BE TO SURRENDER• F ) AYUB INDICATED TO ME THAT HE BELIEVED THAT MAURER WOULD ·BE MORE THAN WlLLING TO TRY TO MAINTAIN A DIALOGUE W!TH HINH IF usG so DESIRED• G) AYUB GUEST I ONED MAURER ABOUT NORTH vI ETNA~ESE AB I l:. I TY ·ro c oNTINUE CONFLICT AND ELICITED REPLY "THAT WHlLE INDUSTRY ~AS LEVELED ON THE GROUND• FOOD SUPPLIE$ W~RE ADEQUATE, M~LIT~RY SUPPLIES GENEROUS FROM CHICOMS AND ussR AND THAT 'UNDERGROUND FACILITIES PROVIDED FOR MINIMAL NON~MI~ITARY INDUSTRIAL REQUIREMENTS I ~l IN ALL THIS CONTEXT AYUB ADDED THA!s l ON HIS RECENT TRIP TO USSR KOSYGIN HAD INDICAiED TO HjM .THAT IF VlETNAM WERE SETTLED THEN THE USSR COULD AND WOULD 'COME 1 1 BE RE: uDUCED • - epartment of St6'e TELEGRAM -i t!!Ci(2 I PAGE 03 STATE 64114 TO HARMONIOUS AGREEMENT WITH USG ON ALL OTHER OU TSTANDING ISSUES BUT FOR POSITION IN COMMUNIST WORLD vr~-A ... VI S 'CHICOMS 'COULD NOT PAGE 4 RUEHC 64114? ~ C ~ E ~ REPEAT NOT PROCEED COOPER~TIVELY WITH USG BEFORE VIETANM RESOLVED a I I o D E G A UL LE H A D JU ST STA TE D T 0 AYU B . T HA: T I N H I S 0 P I N I· 0 N US G AND USSR COULD AND WOULD FIND "TOTAL AGCOMMODATIONS1 A~BEli NOT REPEAT NOT FRINEDSHIP.P IF VIETNAM :coULD BE GOTTEN OUT OF THE WAYo I ) AYUB ADDED THAT THROUGHOUT THEIR "TALKS DE GAULLE HAD NEVER REPEAT NEVER SPOKEN OF OR REFE RRED TO YSG WITH RANCOR AND WHILE HE HAD PRESSED A YUB FOR A JO I NT CONoEMNA Tl ON OF ·USG POL I CY IN VIETNAM HE HAD YIELDED TO AYUBVS INSiSTENCE THAT THEIR 'JOyNT COMMUNIQUE IN THIS AREA BE TEMPERED TO AYUs 0 s FORMULA OF ~EACEFUL SELF-DETERMINATION• END QUOT~o RUSK NOT TO BE REPRODUCED ~~~~ITHOUT THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE EXECUTIVE SECRETARY